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Lab 5 excel sheet

Post  ahh on Mon Mar 09, 2009 8:42 pm

could anyone pleasee help me calculate the constant on the sheet i've tried so many things and I dont get what im doing wrong. this is what ive been using


(4*pi*k'*N)^2
(2(a^2)(4/5)^3

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Constant

Post  Murf on Mon Mar 09, 2009 11:55 pm

Hey the equation is : (4*pi'*N)^2 / (2*((5/4)^3)*a^2) you just reversed the 5 and 4 i think.

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Sorry!

Post  Murph on Tue Mar 10, 2009 12:16 am

I forgot the k', not pi' but u had that right anyway! whoops

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Lab 5 excel sheet - finding constant (answer)

Post  Helping on Tue Mar 10, 2009 12:51 am

constant = ((4*pi*k'*130)^2)/(2((5/4)^3)*(a^2)

where 130 = N (it says it in the lab - this made me go crazy until I actually read the damn thing lol). It turned green in my excel sheet, so it should work in yours! (comes out to a value with E-07).

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a & Delta(Ir)^2

Post  cutiepie on Tue Mar 10, 2009 1:45 am

I am not getting a...
I am using a=((a_v1+a_v2)+(a_h1+a_h2))/4
What am I doing wrong?

How do you get Delta(Ir)^2??????????

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errors...

Post  poop on Tue Mar 10, 2009 12:07 pm

how do u get : error of slope? e/m? error of e/m? error of constant? I have been plugging in so many numbers, nothing is working. thanks!

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Post  someone on Tue Mar 10, 2009 2:39 pm

Error of e/m would be

sqrt((Δconstant/constant)^2+(Δslope/slope)^2)*e/m

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Re: Lab 5 excel sheet

Post  someone. on Tue Mar 10, 2009 3:02 pm

Ok for the error in slope our TA told us that somthing around 15000 would work (10000 to 20000, somewhere in that range) but for some reason the excel sheet doesnt want to accept that..

Error in the constant = 2*(Δa/a)*constant

e/m = (V/(IR)^2)/constant = slope/constant

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textbook value?

Post  lost on Tue Mar 10, 2009 3:57 pm

Does anyone know what textbook value of e/m refers to?

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error of slope

Post  kate on Tue Mar 10, 2009 4:38 pm

I played around with the error of slope for a bit and found that values between 500-700 seem to fit. If you put in values around there, see which max/min lines fit your error bars the best and that should be your error in slope

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Textbook Value

Post  Guestttt on Tue Mar 10, 2009 8:42 pm

e/m= charge of electron/mass of electron= (1.6*10^-19)/(9.11*10-31)= 1.76E11 C/kg

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Error in slope

Post  cutiepie on Tue Mar 10, 2009 9:40 pm

How do you find the error slope? Every1 that is saying plugg-in #'s from 100-700 is WRONGGGGGG. Help me

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error in slope

Post  guest_01 on Tue Mar 10, 2009 9:53 pm

for error in slope:

(delta(Ir)^2/(Ir)^2) * slope value

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Re: Lab 5 excel sheet

Post  maria on Tue Mar 10, 2009 9:59 pm

Hi

How do u find "a" and "Delta r" plz help Smile

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mmm

Post  cutiepie on Tue Mar 10, 2009 10:03 pm

what #'s do i plugg-in b/c I tired 2 already and it is not working

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