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Post  Guesto Wed Oct 15, 2008 11:07 am

Can't figure out the format for the first part of question 9... anyone?

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Post  Guesto Wed Oct 15, 2008 11:08 am

Nevermoind, got it...

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Post  Guest123 Wed Oct 15, 2008 12:49 pm

For number 1 they are asking us to give the Kinetic Energy for the combined masses...

when I put KE = (.5)(M+m)(v^2) into maple TA it tells me that the answer is wrong.. am I plugging this in incorrectly?

thanks!

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Post  laney Wed Oct 15, 2008 12:53 pm

Does any one know the format for this question?
This is what I am entering... I've tried it a hundred different ways.

(Deltad/d)*d

please help!! Smile

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Post  g Wed Oct 15, 2008 1:28 pm

For number 1 type in this
.5*(m+M)*(v^2)
and it will be correct

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Post  g Wed Oct 15, 2008 1:30 pm

and for number 10 the answer is
(Deltad/d)*v

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Post  Guest00 Wed Oct 15, 2008 1:30 pm

For question 8, my value for d is .0250... how do we get delta d?

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Post  guestttt Wed Oct 15, 2008 1:31 pm

can anyone help me out.. im having so much trouble just starting off the table 2 i cant figure out how to find PE or KE

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Post  Re: Re: Wed Oct 15, 2008 1:36 pm

KE = (.5)*(M+m)*(v^2)

PE = -(m)*(g)*(h)

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Post  guestttt Wed Oct 15, 2008 1:43 pm

for question 8 ... the answer for Deltad is 0.00005 it was actually written in the lab somewhere.. this number is the same no matter what your d is

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Post  helppppp Wed Oct 15, 2008 1:56 pm

Does anyone know how to get the expected slope in question #24??

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Post  Laney Wed Oct 15, 2008 2:09 pm

how to you solve for delta PE. I have used the eqn in number 13 both with and without multiplying PE. Any ideas?

These are my numbers:

deltam=.0002
m=.02
deltah=.003922
h=.0255
PE for the first one is -.005003

is delta h the same number as delta h calculated in problem 12? (i thought it was)
Is h the difference from say h2-h1? That way you have a different h for every row... right?

Very lost. Thank u

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Post  guest525 Wed Oct 15, 2008 2:26 pm

expected slope is -1...

how do you get the ratio in question 25 i did the math that they explain but im getting it wrong.

my slope of my best fit line was -1.05 and the error was 0.03

I did (-1.05 - -1)/.03 =-1.667

I tried it both neg and positive...

any help??

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Post  guest123 Wed Oct 15, 2008 2:34 pm

for question 6: What are the values of N, Nd, and delta Nd? im not getting it right

.. and every time i change my answer to question 6 my answer to question 8 becomes wrong :-x help

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Post  helppppp Wed Oct 15, 2008 2:58 pm

N = # of tape-blank pairs = 10
Nd = the measured length of the 10 tape-blank pairs (mine was .254 m, yours should be around that)
DeltaNd = sqrt((DeltaM)^2)+(DeltaM)^2)
= sqrt((.001^2)+(.001^2))
= .0014
(To get DeltaNd, you first have to estimate the absolute error for the length of 10d, I estimated .001 m, but yours might be different so you can just substitute your your value for the absolute error into the equation above)

In order to get both #6 and #8 correct,you have to make sure your values for #6 are correct because the values in both questions are connected to each other

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Post  gggguest Wed Oct 15, 2008 3:12 pm

For the questions where we enter in our own values for delta PE and KE... im only getting the first answer correct and each answer after is coming up wrong..

KE is just 1/2(M+m)v^2... where 1/2(M+m) is the same for each and all that changes is the v^2.. right?
and for the delta PE equation.. the only thing different in each equation is the value of PE?

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Post  lab Wed Oct 15, 2008 3:49 pm

My 10d=.253m
d=.0253m
delta 10d=.001
dela d=.0001?m how is this wrong???? i keep getting tht marked wrong

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Post  random g Wed Oct 15, 2008 4:25 pm

your answers are correct, i did the same thing for mines, and it is correct- maybe you're entering something else wrong?

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Post  sheshine Wed Oct 15, 2008 5:41 pm

i have no idea what do i need to put it for the question

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Post  confused Wed Oct 15, 2008 6:30 pm

does anyone else get a slope of ~ -1.8? is that wrong...? its because u multiply by .5 for KE...so ure dividing by 1/2 which makes the slope close to -2 even though its suppose to be -1
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Post  also con Wed Oct 15, 2008 6:35 pm

iant it suppose to be -1 only if u are graphing PE vs KE and not PE vs gammaKE?

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Post  cris Wed Oct 15, 2008 7:10 pm

I'm a little confused with number 13. What would be the equation? Is it something dealing with the equation (7) in the error manual?

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Post  Cris Wed Oct 15, 2008 7:46 pm

I put in sqrt(Deltam^2+Deltah^2) and it comes out wrong, is there something missing here???

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Lab Report #4 - Page 3 Empty Help available on the offical help blog!

Post  mdawber Wed Oct 15, 2008 9:14 pm

I can see that there are lots of questions about this lab. In case you are not yet aware of it there is also a discussion going on over on the official help blog:

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Post  mdawber Wed Oct 15, 2008 9:15 pm



This seemed not to appear in the last post so I am posting it again.

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