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Post  super mo Tue Nov 11, 2008 9:45 pm

delta L = sqrt((DeltaI/I)^2+(Deltaomega/omega)^2)*L

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Post  maria Tue Nov 11, 2008 9:47 pm

hello every,

did any one get Q14, I am having a very hard time with that Suspect
also, what are the S.I.Units in Q15

thanx bounce

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Post  maria Tue Nov 11, 2008 9:49 pm

thank u super

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Post  hello Tue Nov 11, 2008 10:23 pm

heeyyyy

quick question

for #7

what numbers u use for (abs(alpha_fr)+alpha)

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Post  super mo Tue Nov 11, 2008 11:02 pm

Unfortunately you need to do your graphs first. The #'s you need are the slopes of the graphs.

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Post  m Tue Nov 11, 2008 11:39 pm

what are the S.I.Units in Q15

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Post  Hola Tue Nov 11, 2008 11:50 pm

how do u find Error in #7
wat do u exactly multipy?

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Post  super mo Wed Nov 12, 2008 12:37 am

SI for 15 is kgm^2rad/s
To find the Delta I use (Deltar/r)*I

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Post  spetro71 Wed Nov 12, 2008 1:56 am

I was able to figure out the I but using the same method in question 7 could not get the error I, any suggestions???

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Post  spetro71 Wed Nov 12, 2008 2:38 am

anyone know how to get these? i got the values but dont know how to do the errors, i can help with all other questions.

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Post  meme Wed Nov 12, 2008 2:43 am

i need help to find delta I disk, i know formula, but wat do u plug in exaclty?

and wat is the I_disk that u have to multiply at end?

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Post  foofanat Wed Nov 12, 2008 2:34 pm

hey so does anyone know what to do for question 16. I can't remember how to do it at all. any help please? I feel like this quesiton was asked in the last lab and i had a hard time figuring it out then. thanks!!!

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Post  physicss Wed Nov 12, 2008 2:39 pm

Im having trouble calculating I for the system with the large weight on it.. question 11. i understand howto find deltaI..but cant get that without a value for I.. should I be using the same equation as before? I= (m*r*g)/(alphafr-alpha)? I used this equation and it came out wrong.. are the values of alphafr&alpha the same throughout the lab?

Also- whats the equation for finding L? (question 16)

thanks!

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Post  1 Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:10 pm

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from question 15 take the
abs(Lbefore-Lafter) and divide it by
sqrt(DeltaLbefore^2+DeltaLbefore^2)

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Post  tom Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:48 pm

I think i understand how to get the ratio in question 16.. but i dont understand how weget thevalues for L and delta L, Lprime & deltaLprime..

& im having a problem with question 11 too Sad what is the equation we use to get the combined moment of inertia Iprime?

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Post  barbie Wed Nov 12, 2008 8:25 pm

how do u figure out the I of the disk wouldnt it be the same as for 7? but thats not working

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Post  me Wed Nov 12, 2008 8:52 pm

what are the untis of L does any one know???

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Post  Guest01 Wed Nov 12, 2008 9:09 pm

L = angular momentum before disk is dropped
deltaL = error of angular momentum before disk is dropped
L' = angular momentum after disk is dropped
deltaL' = error of angular momentum after disk is dropped

I' = I + Idisk

Idisk = .5*M*R2

L = I*omega; units for I = kg*m2, units for omega = rad/s.
L = [kg*m2*rad/s]

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Post  sbch3rri Wed Nov 12, 2008 9:11 pm

Units for L > kgm^2rad/s

For # 7: I=mr(g-ra)/abs(alpha_fr)+alpha ; deltaI=deltar/r*I

For # 11: I'= I+I_disk ; deltaI'= sqrt((deltaI)^2+(deltaI_disk)^2)

For #15: L=I*w ; deltaL=sqrt((deltaI/I)^2+(deltaw/w)^2)*L

Hopefully, that helps study

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Post  he Wed Nov 12, 2008 11:28 pm

quick question

what does deltar/r equal too

how to solve deltar/r ?

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Post  he Wed Nov 12, 2008 11:35 pm

i got it cheers

i was confused

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Post  Confuzzl Thu Nov 13, 2008 2:14 pm

Just to clarify, for graph 1: the angular velocity is on the y axis and the time on the x axis, right? Becuase when I try to find slope, the only answer that I can put in for MapleTA is a negatve one, and clearly my slope is increasing

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Post  Guest01 Thu Nov 13, 2008 6:25 pm

Then something is wrong. For Graph 1 the slope should be negative. The graph itself is a negative linear slope.

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Post  xxcutiex Thu Nov 13, 2008 11:44 pm

how do i get L before for Q15....i keep getting it wrong when i do L=Iw Neutral is there another way of doing it

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Post  Guest01 Fri Nov 14, 2008 12:26 am

You need to calculate L and L' which is really just the angular acceleration before (L) and after (L') the disk is dropped.

To calculate L take the I from Question 7 and multiply it by omega in Question 13. L' should be the combined Inertia (I') from Question 11 multiplied by omega' in Question 13.

Try those.

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